It's been announced that Cadet training to be conducted by the Fiji Military Forces will soon be introduced to all schools in Fiji.
The Minister of Youth and Sports Laisenia Tuitubou says Cadet training 'will ensure that our youth are imparted with values required to address social issues'.
Tuitubou says this form of discipline is being introduced 'because of the change in attitude among many young people today'.
This announcement brings so many concerns and questions with it.
Firstly, we all know the reputation of the Fiji Military Forces and how they 'disciplined' citizens and helped their commander take over the country in a coup in 2006.
There are so many cases of innocent people being intimidated, beaten, tortured and some dying at the hands of these soldiers.
And now these men are to become role models for our children and teach them how to have good characters and be good citizens?
This is another initiative being pushed down the throats of Fiji, just like changing the Fiji flag.
But wait, we shouldn’t be surprised.
After all this is a military regime in power under the guise of democracy and it proves itself to be the case time and time again.
338 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 338 of 338Vili Vutusona, Fijians hardly ever step back from a fight? Fuck you, the Fijian soldiers are cowards because they surrendered whereas the Filipinos stood their ground. Just fuck off asshole.
Josateki Daulako says to Vili the vilage idiot.... your comments are quite amusing.....
Bill da clown , the phoney!
@6.57am
Totally agree on Fijis bravado in warfare but that's something of the past. Not anymore . They still do that today but on a different country's uniform.
The Fiji Royal Military Force of old had earned themselves the tittle " best jungle fighters "in the world alongside the mountainous Nepalese in WW1.
They were once the pride of our nation until Frank became the commander.
Frank has created a new legacy..
In regards to confronting the terrorists on that day our boys had several options , I can only think of 4, maybe the new phoney recruit can tell us more.
1. Engage them directly
2.Flee
3.Negotiate
4.Surrender
Of the 4 they skipped 1 because they were SCARED.
2 was not an option at all as deserts don't provide shelters(no cassava plantation to escape to) Option 3 was carried out after option 4 was taken.
Vili, this was their strategy that worked really well in their favor, not the for the peacekeeping body. Even though, they had survived, their legacy of cowardice had lived on.
What a shame! ! They have shamed the survivors of WW1 and WW2. They have shamed the names Labalaba and Sukanaivalu.
Latest update. Biosecurity Executive Chairman mum is Khaiyums mother sister. Thats how he became AFL board member and Executive Chair of Biosecurity.
He is also like Bala been investigated for the death of a son of a Biosecurity officer. The case has been pending and he does not want to appear in court. Rumours are that files for this case went missing.
Mr Xavier khan also runs Medisure Pharmacy which wrongly prescribed the dosage rate of medicine that alleged to have caused the death of the child.
His involvement in the case and continued position of Biosecurity head could affect court hearing. He should declare his case to the board and resign, unless cousin Khaiyum sees nothing wrong with it.
More to come on Xavier khan, the boss of 6.5 million drug import, a drug lord himself and in charge of security at the border. He decides what to check and what not to check. More coming soon.
"In relation to the situations our troops faced any professional military unit would have done the same. " sayest Vili. Hehehe
Is this why we see the absolute STALWARTNESS in the Filipino soldiers standing their ground fighting tooth and nail to victory against the terrorist group? NO FEAR, NO SURRENDER! That's how the real professional Filipino military unit carried out the job Vili. That is the reality. It happened and they were victorious.
Whereas here we go - Vili does it again with his flowery imaginative cover-up for our military troop who displayed nothing but COWARDICE......it's just made them a bigger laughing stock! Not forgetting the failing blabbermouth who has no concrete grounds whatsoever in making the quivering pimps look good.
Vili paleeeese you are an embarrassment. You don't seem to learn anything except behave like a KOKI!!!
Vili says:
Maybe you should use the word 'pipsqueak' instead eh brada? Merci ma brada.
Over and out.
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Vili phony,
What's your take on this? This is what's going on and is a reality. Just leave the church, tradition and military propaganda for the time being. The current regime is full of corruption and nepotism. Look at Frank , he has his entire house and extended family in govt, private and public sectors .
The Military propaganda machine will continue with their propaganda of RACISM and denouncing Churches, Chiefs and Traditional values. They will continue their propaganda of Division amongst the people.
@12:13 PM
"It is only the chiefs who are pushing us down"- p.8
- http://www.spicesfiji.com/Fiji_Spice_Garden/Books_by_Gatty_files/Naitasiri%20Final%20SAMPLE%20for%20WEB.pdf
What we call "tradition" in Fiji was actually fabricated by the British.
Fijian tradition is brutal, very brutal. The rule of the club. Hence, the military rule IS tradition, ironically.
urban drift is making Fijian tradition quickly irrelevant to...iTaukeis...sad, but true.
If Fijians can't manage to re-invent themselves, they will vanish. Bainimarama is using modernity to hide his dirty dealings, but such has always been the nature of Fiji politics.... and of "politics" actually.
How about the blog administrator put a word limit on contributions to keep things on topic. Its getting tedious , all this ranting and grandstanding by certain individuals hijacking this blog and then going on to talk about unrelated things. I suggest a 250 word limit or around 20 sentences.
Unrelated maybe, but significant certainly. One to wind up the blinkered anti police and army brigade ! Brutality is endemic in your way of life.
The Suva High Court has handed down a 15 year sentence to a man guilty of raping his 13 year old niece last year.
While handing down the sentence Judge Justice Paul Madigan said rape of children is now far too common in Fiji and heavy custodial sentences ought to be given to perpetrators.
The perpetrator had been living with the victim’s family since she was a baby. In February last year when the girl’s father was abroad, her uncle took advantage of her as she slept.
The girl then told her mother about the traumatic experience and the matter was reported to police.
@ 5.16pm
You may not know you’ve gone off on a tangent...yet again!
@Anonymous 5:35 PM
And you may not have read the posts here to recognise there's little direction in anything.
The blinkered 'anti' Fiji establishment crusaders are the only ones that follow any recognised tangent, and that is to refuse to accept the root cause of anything, themselves.
How did you know this money had ended up in massage parlors,? did you just make that up? how sarcastic!!
You sounded like that blabbering phony Vili.
Ha ha ha oh yes we recognise the root cause... do you recognoze the root cause though.... why continuously blame the chiefs churches and nationalism... the cause factor is those that did the deed... and we need to recognize that... you cant justify the military executing the coup because they were as you assume and allege that the chiefs nationalist and churches caused it.... of course they may have supported it and participated in the melee that followed but the cause is found in identifying the motivation and the gains. No one apart from the military gained as much as the military did in all three coups.... their intention to be involved in fijis politics and statements they make like the recent Naupote statement glares out that the are not prepared to relinguish their power grip on the political front. Dont continue to tell us that the military are innocent and dont have the capacity to understand right from wrong... we have been led to believe that they were influenced by external parties...c'mon all thats changed is the military with their camouflage uniform... they wore wolves skins when executing the coup and their methodical brutality against Indians in 1987 and the coups that followed they upped the level of brutality against the people of Fiji..... now they wear sheep skin uniform and they expect us to believe they did it for the good of the nation. What good has come out from all the 4 coups.... The Chiefs Churches and so called Nationalist are still as poor as before the coups... look at all the military officers who supported and were behind the coups... forget the supporters look at Frank... he has amassed wealth more then churches ir chiefs can ever get..... Naupote himself could never get the position he gained in the public sector if he applied directly.... our government and legal system with numerous dexrees subjugating the people is influenced by dictatorial attitudes rather than dialoque and transparent participation. ..you talk about progress but it is not progress when you have very little say.... no no no the military has fooled everyone long enough but the sheep skin is being ripped open.... accept the fact that they are the perpetrators and others like chiefs and churches may have been accesories but the root cause are those that carried it out.... if not fir their action and inaction they committed and alliowed the coup to happen... should they not be suppressing such ideals of uprising...they cannot commit it and deny their actions... no the military are the root causes and we have a right to challenge and express our opinion of their actions....should we agree without question.. ha that is what the military wants...some of you may be resigned to it but you are not doing the country or the future generation that attitude.
To top it of some of you have the audacity to express our Fijian traditions and spiritual value are a hinderance towards our development. What planet are you guys on....this is Fiji and tge ways and traditions of a unique group of people has to be respected.... you have shown nothing but disrespect and lack of understanding and this Government is hell bent on denouncing what we value as Fijians.... many of us succed in our endeavors and maintain these important values... it has made us appreciate who we are as a unique race of people and we are respected for that.... believe me people of other indigenous races wonder why our Government is continuing with their foolish propoganda against the indigenous Fijians..... it does not make sense... it should be protected not denounced. Frank stating his understanding of the Indonesian brutality of west papuans remind us of his command of the military and the brutality they committed against the people Fijians Indians other races.... franks heart is cold and only a cold hearted men wiuld choose to publicly ignore the plight of the west papuans. He has attained a power that he thrives in and the military know that it can only be enforced with fear. Are we trully free men in a country with little options or opportunities.... something to consider...homework for you Vili
@2:31 AM then we have to create opportunities.
That means not spending all our days sitting down drinking grog while liumuring someone next door. It means to read books instead of watching stupid and violent TV.
too much violent TV leads to a culture of violence and militarism as we witness now.
look how emoty are our public libraries?
each village could easily have a small bure where books and tables and a peaceful and quiet environement would become a refuge for those who have a brain and a positive influence on the others. There are enough churches in Fiji, now we need libraries. That will foster a culture of INTELLIGENCE instead of MILITARY STUPIDITY.
Education is the Key.
@4:53 PM
Very true. This post is all about the culture of militarism and the flag.
Back to the main article:
"This is another initiative being pushed down the throats of Fiji, just like changing the Fiji flag."
We managed to win the first round on the flag issue because we were united and because we KEPT OUR FOCUS. That lead to people writing letters to the editor that were obviously inspired by our discussions. The flag issue was interesting in that we noticed the contribution of some intelligent people, to make a change from some of the crap we often read here.
I suppose that our first significant victory in a long while means something. What Fiji needs to resolve her many problems is INSPIRATION in the first place. For Fiji to stand, the people of Fiji have to stand. Inspiration for a better Fiji can come from OUR victory on the flag issue.
BTW, I find it ironic that one letter in the newspaper yesterday can't aknowledge the simple fact that Cakobau had his own original symbol... I think that should be our next step: GET THE CAKOBAU FLAG FLYING AGAIN!
Fijian flag
BROODING over the national emblem, don't blame Rabuka for not changing the flag because we cannot ask Cakobau, Ganilau, Mara and Koya why they never thought of a new and original symbol back then! I believe a Fijian flag of its own origin and representation hoisted in the presence of the first in line to the English throne on Independence Day could have evaded the ongoing preference and uproar between the FijiFirst Government and the people.
AREKI
Anonymous 7.49 am
"Our 'solis' are our way of giving back to God part of what is His in faith. People who understand God's word understand that their 'solis' or 'tithes' are not theirs but God's. They understand that they are ROBBING God or stealing from Him if they do not give their 'solis' or 'tithes' to their respective church authorities whom they regard as God's representatives. Please read Malachi chapter 3. "wherein have we robbed Thee?....in tithes and offerings...etc..".
Theirs is the faith to donate these "offerings" to the advancement of God's work disregarding their own selves."
Wow this is exactly what I have been talking about. Twisting the scriptures for their own benefit. Are you freaking kidding me, God does not need our money because he is God and has everything he wants.
He clearly says so in his word. He categorically stated that tithes has to be spent on Widows, Weak abled and Orphans period. He gets his reward from your emotional deposit not monetary ones. And nowhere does he say that we have to pay money to be a member of his club or Kingdom. He says to join him all we had to do is accept him and renounce our sins. So all these vakamisinari subscription is purely the Church manipulating for financial gains.
The advancement of God's work is funded by God himself through his word usually in the forms of blessings and opportunities he creates. And you are manipulating the people telling them they have to pay for it and then pocketing it to feed your evil ego.
Unfreaking believable the arrogance of this lot into trying to force people to give the Church their hard earned money whilst struggling to provide for their own family.
People should refrain from being used as a money making machine for evil organisations like the Church. How is it right that people especially the most van ur able like orphans, widows and weak abled to give their money to Church and then go Hungary while Talatala and the Church high ranks feed themselves with loads of food and grog to the point they are freaking overweight.
People need to wake up. Stop giving your hard earned money to the church or Talatala. Use it on yourself and your kids. If you want to help then why not buy some food and take it to that orphan, widow and weak abled like the elderly. Trust me they will appreciate it more than those fat useless manipulative idiots that call themselves church. When they thank you, you will know and feel that it is from their heart. Their tears of appreciation and their prayer of thankless to God is your blessings. When they cry, God cries with them and when you help them God will be touched and he will pay you. Trust me I know these because I do these things and the opportunity for career advancement and other benefits just keeps opening up.
Just recently I arranged for these whilst I was abroad. I gave some money to some family members of mine to go and do some shoppings and take it to few families, one was a single mum with 3 kids, their Dad had sadly passed. A family with a Dad who used to be their main source of income currently on stroke and completely disabled and 2 elderly women who are widows.
I wasn't there but other times I always have and the reaction I always receive from these very lovely sets of families always moves me. I always feel relieved and happy when I do this things which the bible advices and have truly been blessed ever since.
The difference between these and the feeling of whenwhen I used to give to the Church is world's apart. The Church soli was like a task which you were forced to do and never received any thanks or blessings from it. However giving to the Weak abled, orphans and widows wow I tell you I can do that all day long.
Rakoro (5:55 AM) misunderstands or is twisting the scriptures when he says that we need not pay our tithes and our soli's because God does not need money. Sure He does not need money but we need faith in order to fulfill God's commandments. Malachi chapter 3 says that tithes need to be paid in order "that there may be meat in my house". Tithe paying is not a matter of money but a matter of faith.
I have personally seen people who pay tithes gain blessings poured out to them and their families which confirms that God will "open the windows of heaven and pour blessings" to those who faithfully and patiently adhere to this divine statute. Blessings received do not only come back in terms of material wealth and possessions but in spiritual peace and joy and even personal revelations about the things they need to do to alter their lives for the better.
Talatala's and church leaders who misuse the tithes given by individuals are not the faults of the tithe payers, These false priests deserve their own miserable ends. There are churches who adhere strictly to the true mode of tithe paying and disbursement of the payments received and yet Rakoro has condemned all churches who are following exactly what God says in the scriptures about giving tithes and offerings.
God needs our money... for sure.
Bainimarama must be a God.
@5.35pm
You really have got a problem - how about dusting off the cobwebs that's obscuring your vision to begin with.
Seems like you are closely related to Vili. LOL
@6.42pm THIS IS ACTUALLY MEANT FOR YOU:
You really have got a problem - how about dusting off the cobwebs that's obscuring your vision to begin with.
The root cause of your problem is that you subtly make statements that condone ILLEGAL, CRIMINAL and TREASONOUS acts carried out by the Police and the Military.
You are sick but of course you must be closely related to the senseless PARROT, Vili Rakoro.
@Anonymous 9:09 AM
Are you really as dumb as your comment suggests?
Can you see anywhere in what I have written that I have condoned illegal, criminal or treasonous acts carried out by the police, army or anyone else?
Your imagination, stupidity and obvious lack of reasonable intelligence restricts your ability to understand what you have read.
Rather than waste your time here with your vendettas and crusades you would be far better off going back to school and learning how to understand what you read.
Are the guns on the photo loaded?
Are those young women learning how to kill rapists?
Oh look, yet another of example of mindless thuggery on a defenceless woman ! Not content to just rob her they also had to demonstrate their masculinity to boost their egos. Endemic in the nature of so many but still the the mindless sheep don't get the picture.
"" AN ASIAN shopkeeper and her son of Lu Fang Shopping Centre were robbed and brutally beaten on Thursday night in Kinoya by three-men believed to be residing in the same area.
Zhang Ming Yue, who took over the store along Velau Dr in Kinoya for more than six months, said the three men forced their way through the front gate and subdued her at 10:30pm.
According to Ms Yue two of the men held her down with a cloth over her face and continuously punched the back of her head while the third ransacked the store and left with a computer.""
4.53pm....certainly NOT.
C45 is now becoming more like a resource center for thesis students. It is free!!!! Did you read comments thanking bloggers like Daulako and others for their writing skills ?
C45 will produce some good students. I'm myself have benefited so much from professional writers here at home and from abroad . Thank you people. Your comments, your inputs, your opinions, your critics, your debates are USEFUL .
Please take part for the sake of our college students who visit this blog and for those preparing thesis. Look at Vili Rakoro , a student of c45 is now a graduate. He is probably the most senior student of c45 and has won several tittles under his name such as" the village idiot, kokee, pipsqueek, phony, propagantist, bakuwavivi, boci, kulina, baku, qavochee, and so on and so forth
sa dri yani!!!
@4.55..that's why c45 is here to distract some of us flocking to bars, nightclubs, grog party watching tv, etc.... C45 is a resource center now as anon 4.03 has right fully stated. We have enough libraries in the urban areas, perhaps the rural is , as you said. That's another topic of discussion. In contrary, the minister of education must look at improving school libraries in schools at the same time provide financial assistance, guidance and support to have a library in each district.
So far we have libraries in schools , colleges, some of the churches. and local authorities. What is required for the existing ones is upgrade and improve.It's about time that each district should have one- a collective task for govt and districts to carry out.
Vili Rakoro is a one-eyed coup apologist.
I view the current political setup today in Fiji as no different to that of the military coups of 87.Same events different players and a political extension of a military coup.
I deliberately did not include the events of 2000 because it did not fit the category of a military coup de tat rather, a civilian revolution where social instability ceased and politics settled by the elections of 2001 & 2006.
I speak with the experience of having served in a disciplined military force in a democratic nation whose citizens have never had their elected representatives, institutions and laws demolished by treasonous military officers such as Bainimarama.
The military is an institution created by it's citizens to protect them and to project their interests as a nation.Two words describe military life as a soldier..DISCIPLINE AND LOYALTY.!!! As a fighting force these two words are tested and measured through performances on the battlefield to safeguard a democratically peaceful society. What sets the military apart from any other government organisation is that the individuals chosen to work there are entrusted by their citizens to possess highly dangerous arms and ordinances. When I enlisted, this trust was signified by my acceptance of the "Oath of Allegiance" to defend every citizen and the parliamentary representatives, the government. This is not an oath made to an individual in the military or head of state.The trust placed by citizens in a soldier's ability to carry a military weapon is therefore a serious matter for the simple reason it could be used against them in a destructive manner.That is why, to violate this trust is considered traitorous and the highest crime of the land punishable by the firing squad.
All sensible military officers in Fiji who participated in the coup know that what they did was a heinous crime and regrettable.They all broke their allegiance to the people of Fiji and gave it to a misguided individual who still has no credibility.It is their children who must bear the burden of that crime in public.I believe if they could go back in time, not one of them would have participated.
To Vili, I am not a Sodelpa supporter nor Fiji First and my prediction is the coup cycle will continue because the military is yet to be cleaned up. This cleanup cannot happen because Tikoitoga still owes his allegiance to one man who is now in parading parliament and assuming protection through an illegal Immunity from Criminal Prosecution Decree.A decree that eventually will not save his from his "ILL DISCIPLINE AND DISLOYALTY".
WE ARE LEARNING AS WE GO. VINAKA WILL TAMANI. SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE, SO MUCH TO GAIN.
WE SALUTE YOU FOR SHARING WITH US WHAT IT WAS LIKE BEING A LOYAL SOLDIER IN WHAT WAS THEN A HIGHLY DISCIPLINED MILITARY FORCE.
ANYBODY WHO THINKS LIKE VILI RAKORO AND INSIST THAT THE MILITARY TODAY IS THE SAME OR EVEN BETTER THAN IT WAS IN THE TIME OF WILL TAMANI, URGENTLY NEEDS HIS OR HER HEAD EXAMINED. THERE IS ALREADY A LONG LINE UP OF SUCH FOLKS ATTRACTED TO AND INSPIRED BY THE NEW UNCULTURED MADNESS.
YES WE AGREE. THE PEOPLE OF FIJI HAVE BEEN BETRAYED BY TRAITORS IN SOLDIERS UNIFORMS WHO FORCED THEMSELVES INTO POWER AND SHAMELESSLY TRASHED OUR COUNTRY'S CONSTITUTION. NEVER BEFORE HAVE WE SEEN SUCH BETRAYAL - NEVER BEFORE HAVE WE SEEN FIJI SOLDIERS IN THE VERY ACT OF TERRORIZING AND ILL-TREATING IT'S CITIZENS WITH SUCH RUTHLESS BRUTALITY! WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT IN THEIR LIFETIME THEY WOULD SEE SUCH UNDISCIPLINED SELF SERVING GREEDY GOONS WHO WERE MISLED OBVIOUSLY BY A REBELLIOUS LEADER. WE SEE A FALSE DECLARATION OF FIJI BEING DEMOCRATIC ONCE AGAIN. WE ONLY NEED TO TAKE ONE OF THE MANY UNCOUTH OR UNCIVILIZED EXAMPLES (THE BRIJ LAL CASE ) PLAYED OUT BEFORE US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT FIJI IS EXPLICITLY ABOUT AS A NATION - WE REMAIN UNDER MILITARY RULE. NEVER THOUGHT WE'D REQUIRE AS A PACIFIC ISLAND NATION, A 'MILITARY POLICE' UNIT. NOW A NEW DEVELOPMENT TO INCREASE THE CURRENT MILITARY FORCE!
LEST WE FORGET, THE CRIME OF TREASON BY FRANK BAINIMARAMA DID STRIKE AT THE FOUNDATIONS OF FIJI'S LEGAL ORDER! AND, WE WERE WITNESSES TO SEE THE JUDICIARY BEING COMPROMISED. SOMEHOW, FRANK BAINIMARAMA AND HIS MILITARY SUPPORTERS SEEMED TO HAVE GOTTEN AWAY WITH TREASON.
INDEED, TREASON IS A CRIME OF DISLOYALTY TO ONE'S NATION.
IT IS CLEAR THAT FRANK AND HIS MILITARY WILFULLY BETRAYED THE NATION ON AN OATH OF LOYALTY - THEREFORE WE THE CITIZENS OF FIJI CAN RIGHTFULLY AND LEGALLY PROCLAIM THEM TRAITORS! HE AND HIS MEN HAVE COMMITTED A SERIOUS CRIME OF TREASON!
HOW AMAZINGLY REAL IS THE FOLLOWING QUOTE FROM ARISTOTLE:
"AT HIS BEST, MAN IS THE NOBLEST OF ALL ANIMALS; SEPARATED FROM LAW AND JUSTICE HE IS THE WORST"
AND LET ME JUST CONCLUDE - NO AMOUNT OF HOGWASH OR WHITEWASH BY SUCH CRIMINALS WILL EVER CONCEAL THIS REALITY, NOT NOW, NOT EVER!!
THERE IS A MIGHTIER POWER IN RULE OVER US AND HE SEES ALL!! GOD IS JUST!!
AND OF COURSE, NOT FORGETTING THE MAIN BOY RABUKA WHO PRECEDED HIM WITH THE FIRST COUP!
TREASON IS A SERIOUS CRIME - HOW IS IT THAT THE MAIN MILITARY BOYS ARE STILL IN POWER FLOUNDERING AROUND??
HOW IS IT THAT GEORGE SPEIGHT AND THE REST OF THEM ARE SERVING TIME BUT THESE MILITARY MIGHTS ARE FREE???
CAN SOMEONE ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS???
Hmmm good strong point of theory. Brada merci..correct back to front dissertation. Rabuka first lols
Will Tamani
Your first line of comments stated I am a one eyed coup apologists. And later you stated you are not a Sodelpa supporter. You have forced me to be on the defensive from the off.
Had you not mention those then perhaps I would have taken your comments openly but now I am a bit suspicious as to the true feelings hidden beneath the remainder of your comment.
Regarding the military, your interpretation of their roles is calculated to suit your personal point of view. While I agree on some levels, I am forced to point out that your entire comments have relieved corrupt politicians, religious and traditional institutions or organisation from having any sort of responsibility.
The problem about people like you is you only have the capacity to see the execution and outcomes of political disorder. Need I remind you the 2006 coup did not happen suddenly. There were certain actions committed by the Politicians acting as the Government throughout the years starting from the events of the 2000 coup.
I have covered that before where I stated that I believe that Qarase the politician who was the head of the government could have prevented the 2006 coup if he had brought those responsible for the 2000 coup to justice instead of recruiting them illegally in his cabinet.
The Military institution is the sole guardian of peace and order as stated by the constitution. Not by the Chiefs, Church or Politicians. When politicians act outside of the constitution like what Qarase did then they need to be put dealt with for the benefit of the people.
The Military can legally step in through Marshall law to maintain law and order. Obviously it has to be approved by their Commander in Chief which is the President and he did. So technically the 2006 coup was not really a coup rather it was the execution of the Marshall law ordered by the President which is constitutional.
To put it simply, Qarase tried to use unconstitutional methods to change illegal policies to become legal such as the qoliqoli bill and releasing those responsible for the 2000 coups. Those actions could have caused racial and provincial tensions which could have affected the economy which means it will affect the people. The military stepped in to prevent all of that. Yes their methods maybe questionable but their intentions was right and warranted.
You do know dissertations are usually University work right.
Vili Rakoro,
Your support of the Military coup and the Fiji First activities now in robbing the people of Fiji of their nations wealth to pay themselves huge salaries and pecks, is the best defense for the Church Talatalas in their robbing the people with tithes and offerings.
Both the military and the Church are(or were) good institutions. Only the people who are their heads or leaders are not good. In the end they will stand before God and answer for their actions.
God is not mocked.
Let us continue to do good and in the end we will reap our just reward.
@10.41pm..the blabbermouth parrot again!!!!
I welcome Will Tamani's comments and the responce from anon 9.15/9.22. Thank you both for keeping the fire burning. We need to bring these coup instigators to justice. Keep it on.
Vili,
There's always something from you even if you have to rehearse one statement over and over again. At some stage that statement becomes boring and lost its glamour. Anyway since you mentioned something new this time, you said that the commander in chief gave his approval of the Marshall law. Why did he give his approval? Wasn't he under duress ? What was his state of mind, his health condition then?
Everyone knew that Bainimarama had overstepped his boundary and overruled his own commander in chief. You need to explain on this. That alone is treason committed against the supreme head of the govt. Tamani and everyone here would like your sermon on this.
Thank you anon 1 19 am. Well supported. WT and anon 9.22 are definitely correct...well said.
The word treason is back again. As for Vili he is unable to explain the meaning of this word. Is he protecting someone or his own fear of getting exposed who he really is. He is evading answering this simple 7 letter word since KNR had posted it sometime back. Vili is replying to all his critics except this one.
Now I will extend that question?
What is treason?
Did Frank commit treason in 2006 when he took over the govt?
Did Rabuka commit treason in 1987 and 1990 taking power from both Rt Penaia and Rt Mara.
Thanks to 9.22...Speight who committed treason and was not a military guy is currently serving his sentence. Why did the military men Rabuka and Frank are still roaming free today? What difference is there between treason committed by military and the commoner when one (the commoner) is convicted without the other? Can you explain Vili?
There's a trend in the army that whoever takes over the govt have to abolished the constitution straight away to avoid getting fired. ..the penalty for treason. That's why this must be stopped .
Vili, your answers please and" thank you all" to all bloggers.
Vili, my comments were not designed to solicit a comment from you but to educate you on the workings of the military and its role in society.The military is not a law unto itself and just in case you missed it,I speak from military experience.
In addition, you concurred with some of my statements..which ones? Your ramblings do not make sense..what exactly are you attempting to portray in your comments?
Firstly, you mentioned Marshall law? Is that something related to the legal structure of the Marshall Islands? Or is it Martial law you are referring to?
If the latter then it explains the pathetic state of your mind.Martial law is imposed by the military usually after a coup de tat, which is again an illegal act of treason carried by disloyal soldiers.
In a constitutional democracy,extreme social unrest or natural disasters would allow authorities to consult and call for a State of Emergency as provided under the 1999 Constitution.This is only done under strict constitutional guidelines and within the legal framework of the law.No one or organisational, including the military commander has the legal powers to step outside the constitution.In 2006, there were no extreme social unrest (people killing each other on the street etc) nor were there a natural disaster.If politicians, churches and so forth as explained by Vili, acted outside the law then why did he or Voreqe fail to file a report with the Police? After all, the Police are the constitutional guardians for law and order in the country.To say that Police Commissioner,Andrew Hughes did not have the capacity to arrest the aforementioned people but only with the help of the military is really the most ridiculous claim and fallacy ever made.
The 2009 Court of Appeal exposed the lie of the Bainimarama Doctrine of Necessity to rule that his treasonous actions in 2006 were indeed wrong.
On military officers like those in Fiji getting entangled in public politics, take heed from former US Military Commander and Joint Chief of Staff, Admiral Mike Mullen,
Military officers who denounce government policies are "cowardly," Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of staff, told U.S. Naval Academy graduates that military officers face two options when political leaders do not follow their advice -- obey orders or quit.
"We give our best advice beforehand," he said. "If it's followed, great. If it's not, we only have two choices -- obey the orders we have been given, carrying them out with the professionalism and loyalty they deserve, or vote with our feet.
This is the DISCIPLINE AND LOYALTY I was referring to in regards to the all the men up at Delainabua who failed to protect their masters in government and the citizens who entrusted them with the gun.Instead they opted to blindly follow the path of a traitor...Mullens described these men as cowardly.
In the military, being a coward is also punishable by the firing squad. After the coup, Bainimarama has used fear tactics against he men saying that if they let justice take it's course then they will all end up in jail.He then sells them a false sense of security in the Immunity from Criminal Prosecutions Decree.This decree is plainly a coward's escape from the law and more sinister, an illegal license to commit criminal offenses with impunity against fellow citizens.As witnessed since 2006, these crimes range from treason, murder, rape, theft, torture,intimidation and so forth.
My humble advice to the Fiji military is..do not be cowards but come forth to repent your crimes and face justice of your own free will. Sa sinai tu na duka mai na keba..The Lord may answer your prayers of forgiveness but you will still have to face the consequences of your actions.
Josateki Daulako says to Tamani... vinaka... people have to realise the events of the coups and who executed it and the military propoganda that precedes it..... you mentioned Loyalty of the military and tbose are effectively strong words...the militaty owes its loyalty to the people of Fiji not the Commander nor its PM... the people.... their role needs to be clear and defined .... no more shall Fijians be fooled by the military.... we have learned... the propoganda of racism will subside... we as a people accepted and lived side by side with our neighboiurs Indians and other races.... the military propoganda of racism by fijians in the military organisation is but hypocritical..... Vili is nothing but a village idiot typing from berkley crescent stimulating racism and denouncing chiefs and religious leaders and fijian tradition... this coming from fijians and I mean 97% fijians in military makes one shake his head and wonder ...... people know the truth now more then ever...
Even Indians realise they have been duped... the future id clear
Frank coming to zydney liverpool Fiji Day ..waranka namaka... nomu siga nikua... are you brave enough to come...no banana plantation here ...fiji wil rejoice 10 October... i dependence....waraka namaka..Dee
Will Tamani you do not need to be in the military to understand it's laws especially when they usually are drawn up by civilian legal teams. The 2009 court of appeal did indeed ruled against Bainimarama. A big reason of it was the fact that they deemed the order given by the President as illegal due to his medical conditions although no evidence of that was produced in court.
5 56 am
Unbelievable!!! A very big" ucu mai duruna"
Just shut the Crap up if you re running out of ammo. Vili I'm warning you, your propaganda is heading the other way now. There's no way Frank and his cronies will escape justice. It is coming and the seed for that is already sprouting. I know there are lots of x military guys out there like Will and those dissatisfied with what's going on reading this right now...Come on we need your support. The nation has suffered enough!! Enough is enough!!
Thanks Will. Thanks Daulako.
The type of martial law imposed has varying degree.
Firstly it can be used by governments to enforce their rule over the public. Such incidents may occur after a coup d'état such as the 2000 coup.
Secondly it can be declared in cases of major natural disasters, however most countries use a different legal construct, such as a state of emergency.
Thirdly is the imposition of the highest-ranking military officer as the military governor or as the head of the government, thus removing all power from the previous executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government. It is usually imposed temporarily when the government or civilian authorities fail to function effectively.
The Military in 2006 took the first option after the President acting as the head of Government gave them the order. In 2009 after the court of appeal ruled that the order by the President was illegal on medical grounds. The Military proceeded to take the third option because they believed the government or civilian authorities had failed to function effectively.
One of the main reason is Qarase in his position as PM attempted to use unconstitutional methods to draw up policies such as the Qoliqoli bill and the pardoning of those responsible for the 2000 coups, given a good number of those he recruited to his cabinet had links to that particular event. The Qoliqoli bill would negatively affect our tourism industry which is one of our biggest resources for economic developments. Also there were fears it could lead to provincial and racial tensions.
Also by taking that third option they removed all power from the previous executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government. This basically means that the court of appeal ruling became null and void.
If we are to look at all these proceedings rationally then perhaps we all could come to an intersection where we are singing from the same hymns. Firstly we have to separate the four events. The two in 87 are separate from the 2000/2006 events. Even though the 87 and 2006 events were both committed by the military they are not linked.
Had Qarase not permitted those with links to the 2000 events to join his cabinet, then proceeded to draw up a policy to pardon them along with a Qoliqoli policy that threatened our economy and social order, most of us would have not supported any military take-over or party.
In a heartbeat that is the simplest way I can define our contention. It may appear as those like me support the military blindly but that is far from the truth. We basically analysed and researched key points and events such as policy announcements by previous Qarase government and what that policy entails.
It is rather frustrating to constantly read how those who do not support Fiji First simply do not admit that perhaps the reason the military declared martial law in 2006 is because of the failure of the civilian government to rule effectively within the boundaries of the constitution.
Yes we all understand the frustrations of what they committed however you have to admit that their reasons were justifiable.
At this current time we simply have to make do with what we have. One of the weaknesses we have as Fijian specifically ITaukei is that we simply enjoy putting our own down. Whenever anyone commits a mistake or shows signs of weakness we are quick to condemn them and repeatedly remind them of their failures. We are skilled in patronising conversations and remembering people’s mistakes.
We constantly profess to be Christian and religious yet our actions as people are quite the opposite. How can we expect to move forward as a race and country if we simply refuse to forgive and use a negative situation to our advantage. Just browse the comments section on these blog and see the type of derogatory comments that are constantly posted. We claim to have a tradition that is full of respect and care yet our actions often say otherwise.
Often our true self shows up when we are drunk. We start fighting and afterwards we simply brush it off as the Fijian warrior way. If we cannot learn to be civilised then how can we expect to build a democratic civil society.
Our government, leaders and military are not perfect and have committed various mistakes. Yet rather than choosing to move forward and influence each other to rectify our short comings we chose to whine and point fingers. We demand for their removal only to be replaced by similar types and the process starts again. I have travelled abroad often and one of the things I often hear about Fijian is that when sober we are the friendliest yet when drunk we are the most destructive. Little do they know that we always are destructive, only difference is when drunk its physical and sober its verbal.
Our current leaders are from a different time in our society where all these destructive traits were the norm. The current and future generation will be the ones that can lift us after filtering through the system. At present it does not really make a difference whether one is a politician or military, if they are Fijian you can swap their work clothes, uniform or suits and they will still be their old school destructive self. The current generation are well travelled, academic and modern or in other terms more civilised and in tune with the rest of the civilised world. They also have the benefit of having the older generation who can share their experience with to help in projecting a better society. Simply we have learned from their mistakes and strengths however limited it may be.
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would be nice to have another post about the flag.
we never got to know what happened in the flag committee... the mutiny and everything. is it true they will change the flag committee? is it true each member of the flag committee got a special "offer" $$$$ to keep quiet?
they never told us why they never considered the flags that were submitted and why they now ask for more proposals.... what's the point?
now they think we will forget everything about it just because they played with the deadline.
I think we need to fight this battle till our final victory in order to bring them down to their knees.
Josateki Daulako says to Villi the village idiot.....you never seize to amaze anyone with your stupidity...one can only laugh with amusement at your justification of the military coup....now Vili...the reason we have elections every four or five years is for the people to elect their preferred Government...the choice is made by the people not by an organisation like the military. They did not like a Fijian in 1987 because the political party is Indian, spread racism amongst Fijians and commit the coup...how can anyone justify that. In 2006 same thing...the Government realises that the military are uncontrollable. ..the military including its commander knew about the 2000 coup but did nothing to prevent it. There is no need fir a military in fiji anyway...who can we defend ourselves against if invaded...the government commences measures to do so and the military commits the coup and uses and spreads your dumb propoganda. .. everything points back to the military.... the military spreads rumours that Indian businessmen like punjas and hoteliers financed the coup. They did the same in 1987. Why have these people never been identified and arrested...because it is the military that is behind it all.....they cunningly pushed everyone in front and chiefs religious leaders and others paid the ultimate price for following the military propoganda. .....no more will it happen Vili... the people will no longer be fooled...now run off to church pray for forgiveness and give your tithe 20%and your soli.... you wrote about being overseas and giving money to someone in need. ..what a laugh...sure vili....whatever...
It would seem likely that university students are tuning in to Coup 4.5 and presenting their case.
Vili, you were correct.
Much appreciation to all the bravado warriors who are openly declaring public truth regarding the coup de tats in particular the 2006 coup.
According to Vili he says "So technically the 2006 coup was not really a coup rather it was the execution of the Marshall law ordered by the President which is constitutional."
OMG this is false statement. Can picture Satan being the Real Whisperer of this false declaration and the many others that the Devil's Advocate named Vili Rakoro is working overtime at the B Crescent to force-feed the Fiji First followers because it definitely ain't affecting any of us who stand for Law & Justice.
Maybe something BIG is coming around the corner against these cowardly coup betrayers. The Tevoro's Advocate has to work extremely hard, all the more tripping and falling over his confused views which just appear gibberish and profoundly inane.
I am with those who admit that there may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice against the threat of the Military-might-gone-wrong but we must NEVER EVER stand idle by and fail to protest.
God bless Fiji! Amen!
let's stick to the flag issue!!! na kuila !
Yes so while we wait for the flag issue , just take a read at this shocking report from the Land of Oz:
MEDIA RELEASE
23 July 2015
The Australian Christian Lobby today called on Federal Education Minister Christopher Pyne to de-fund the $8 million Safe Schools Coalition of Australia which is promoting radical sexual experimentation in Australian schools.
“Bullying for any reason is wrong and should be combatted but teaching primary school students about ‘queer sex’ and cross-dressing without parental permission is not the way to do this,” ACL spokesperson Wendy Francis said.
Some of the inappropriate material promoted in the 361 schools now taking the program include:
“It may come as a surprise, but there is no strict definition for virginity, especially if you’re queer. Penis-in-vagina sex is not the only sex, and certainly not the ultimate sex. If you ask me, virginity is whatever you think it is.”
(Source OMG I’m Queer Safe Schools student resource).
Ms Francis said this and other material was being promoted in primary and high schools around the nation with the program most recently moving into nine Queensland schools.
“Our society is already over-sexualised without extreme sexual material and gender theory being promoted in schools.
“Children have the right to their innocence. The political ideology carried by this program denies children this right.”
Students are taught that it is ok to change gender, for boys to wear girls’ school uniforms and that they should be allowed to girls’ toilets.
“Girls’ toilets should always be a safe place for them and should be off limits to a boy who might be transitioning into a girl.
“No one should be bullied at school, including children grappling with same-sex attraction or gender confusion. But promoting radical sexual and gender theories to children without parental consent is not the role of the Federal or State Governments.”
Safe Schools was funded during the final days of the Gillard Government and launched by the then Education Minister Bill Shorten. Its funding was retained by the Abbott Government until 2017.
The program also urges children to support the political push to abolish husband and wife from the Marriage Act (Source p22. Stand Out Safe Schools Publication).
“Many of those promoting Safe Schools, such as Labor Senator Penny Wong and Mr Shorten, are also behind the political push to change the definition of marriage in law.
“If this is where this political agenda is taking us, people should be rightly asking ‘what comes next?’ if same-sex marriage is legislated.”
If one hasn't seen how satan looks, see this child rapists laitia nalawa. Satan in human form is depicted very well by this rotten piece of shit and the like.
The child rapist is a member of SODELPA party. It was a set up by SODELPA to create fear in the people
Daulako
Yes your post are hilarious. I like how you don't seem to have any evidences whatsoever to back up your comments. Just wild claims like Frank knew, they pushed the Church and racial intolerance etc.
Your debate skills are very basic. I explained that martial law third option basically means the civilian government is no longer running the country effectively. What was your reply, well they got elected democratically you know, wow thank you for reminding me that. Maybe you should remind yourself as well that the current government is also a democratically elected one or it only works when you say it ey.
Vili rakoro
What is your proof that the government was no longer running the country effectively? was it proven in a court of law? or was it just decided at someones whim to protect himself from being charged with treason?
Why don't you give up Vili rakoro before you drown in your own lies!
Frank convinced the military to follow him using Qarase^s Governments plans to revamp the military. To identify their role clearly and to reduce the size of the military... Frank and his senior military officers used this to convince and acquire the mitary support. Qarase*s policies many of us did not agree with it but there would and should have been an electiom to allow the citizens of Fiji to select their preferred members. To overthrow Qatase the military started their propoganda against the Chiefs...denouncing them. The chiefs were made to look like lazy greedy men who use their people and should not benefit solely from their birth right. They then lurched onto the qoliqoli bill. I said it before and i say it again. The military is 97% fijian and one shakes their head when pne watches Frank allow decrees similar to the provisions of Qarases qoliqoli bill...... no other indigenous people would fight against their own people in the protection and preservation of their legal rights as indigenous of Fiji. Dialogue and transparency would have resolved it. We had a strong opposition with the Labour Party. To top it off and insult the Fijian people.... the military said that if the qoliqoli bill was allowed to pass, the Fijians would fight each other and we would return to feudal times.... this from Fijian Military leaders.... it just does not make any sense that Fijians in the military supported and propoganded against Fijians. They were satisfied that the qoliqoli would create tribal warfare and used that saying their were planned violence and hammered it home. I mean marshall law is enforced if their is social disorder like a coup... not when people are free. Well done military.... i hope you can die feeling and believing you have done the right thing....Josateki Daulako
@10.50 good to see you owning up to it all.Don't forget back stabbing,shit stirs,biggest community gossipers,adultery,limuri, warriors my arse you can't even fight 1 on 1,friendliest people?are you joking that smile is just a veil to lure them in to get what they want (money,passport citizenship, visa's,materialistic item's, pay for the whole village)...Biggest rapist's too damn sick bastard's.
Anonymous 10.10 pm
Are you being stupid or what?
You want proof. Howabout Qarase's first act as PM when he recruited Politicians linked with the 2000 coups. And then when on to draw a policy to pardon them together with the Qoliqoli bill.
All of these were announced on Fiji TV news, various radio stations, printed on newspapers etc. It was a hot topic during Qarase's reign.
Seriously the stupidity of some of you posters never cease to amaze me. At least try and think about what question or accusations you post before you actually post it.
Problem though is most of you post emotionally. You simply lack the ability to be rational. That explains the derogatory words often seen in here. I get it if you do not agree with a point of debate and let your emotions overtake you.
However the problem is most do not even understand what the subject of debate is such as political inefficiency. They then proceed to post completely irrelevant idioms or just derogatory comments as if they think it makes a difference to the facts of conversation.
Can we stick here to the main topic, the FLAG?
Do we really requires 33,987 solidiers in the islands,plus cadets
and territorial forces? Puts that numbers up to around 60,000??Wow-
no wonder there is no paisa for other developments?
We need to keep some money to pay to members of the Flag Committee as they will work hard until December!!!
What a treason that whole circus was... not a single flag proposed was considered. Not ONE.
have you read "Tradition, Lotu and Militarism in Fiji"?
https://books.google.ca/books/about/Tradition_lotu_and_militarism_in_Fiji.html?id=Np10AAAAMAAJ&hl=fr
Vili Cavuka speaking out his anus as per usual.
It is not an easy thing for a small nation like Fiji to change so quickly from its old ways.
http://www.amazon.com/Fiji-Race-Politics-Island-State/dp/0774803681?hl=br
" He describes how the ruling elite - the Fijian chiefly-families and their allies - has maintained its power by manipulating communal or racially-based sentiments, and how the opposition has attempted to change the situation by creating political alignments based on social class. "
was written in 1991, still relevant in 2015.
Social class.
10 years or so of "liberalism" under Bainimarama will have taken its toll on the old tribal establishment.
The future of Fiji will be played in the streets of Suva.
@10.50am
" If we cannot learn to be civilised then how can we expect to build a democratic civil society. "
Vinaka Vili boy. I suggest you rewrite your whole statement into letter form and address it to Frank Bainimarama and his lawless men. HYPOCRISY AND CONTRADICTION that's all I see here!
How come you don't get it still Vili? Sadly you are very rich in contradictions and like Frank, a lying hypocrite.
impossible to talk about the army without talking about the coats of arms.
it has been reported that the government wants to change the coats of arms.
so now we have a new issue to talk about.
Peace!
@Vili Rakoro This you posted earlerier
"You want proof. How about Qarase's first act as PM when he recruited Politicians linked with the 2000 coups."
So Vili WHO ARE THE POLITICIANS LINKED WITH THE 2000 COUP?
WOULD THAT BE RT INOKE KUBUABOLA?
Social problems a real concern
Tevita Vuibau
Monday, July 27, 2015
THE Ministry for Education, Heritage and Arts, this week announced that it will expand its services to addressing rising social problems.
He said children needed to move away from the culture of silence and question traditional authorities when dealing with contemporary issues.
And as part of this expansion of services, Dr Reddy says schools can be used in the weekend for classes on values and virtues.
I AGREE NO MORE "CULTURE OF SILENCE".
MAY BE THE STUDENTS CAN ASK "WHY A TREASONIST COUP LEADER" is not facing Court like all other criminals.
@1:05 PM
Bro, you must learn to love Bainimarama as yourself.
@2.22pm
What a baffoon!
You smoking pot? This would entail the blogger to agree to TREASON!
Have a good day anyway brada.
Like it was mentioned Kua Ni Rere. Vili Rakoro is stumbling all over his tedious 'research' on how best to respond to our steady yet sure missiles! LOL
He ends up becoming Master of Confusion. In the process he opens himself up in a very embarrassing comprising position - a sure target for some deadly questions that will have him mumbling and fumbling for answers. TOPASI BILL! LOL
Marching, foreskin competition and stupid dance routines during Fiji Day celebrations....that's all our mighty military is good for.
My bad, force skill....
Josareki Daulako says... the people of Fiji Fijians Indians and other races need to realise the reasons and perpetrators behind the coup. The military cannot blame the people for their incompetence and treaso ous acts. What is clear is that:
1. The Military committed the coup in 1987 and failef to protect the people of Fiji, knowing that there was a plan to coup the Bavadra and Labour Government. There is no doubt at all with their treasonous actions. One of the true reasons behind the coup was the Labour Government intentions to streamliine and reduce the size of the military. That was the motivating factor for the military. They felt threatenef by the Labour Government. The military is a Fijian boys club. All other races are conditioned to think as such. The fijians propoganded racism to incite and gain the support of the Fijian people. The rewards were there for both chiefs and religious leaders. The creation of the GCC and position of President. The methodist church in which more than 70% of the military are methofist, gained their support and this saw preachers involvement in politics.
2. In the 2000 coup.... the military of which Frank was the Commander knew about the plans of the coup. It is said that Frank had warned Chaudaty and only Chaudary who was the elected PM can confirm this. Frank the Commander and the Military claiming to be the custodian of peace did not stop the rebel military soldiers and the instigators George Speight and others from committing it. They should have advised the Commander in Chief and sought advice. They should have at that point in time, stopped the perpetrators. They failed in their duties to protect the nation a second time. It was the military intention at this point in time when they they overtook the rebel group, was to govern the country for 60 or 100 years.
3. The Military comitted the 2006 coup led by Frank and the reasons for the coup can only be sad to be confounded. They had an opportunity to amend things with the Ghai constitution but Ghai would not comply and the constitutiion would continue to threatened the military position in Fiji. The military does not want to be restructured or reduced and their role defined.
This is clear in their actions today. They continue to recruit and the size of our mjlitary and their budget is far larger than many other larger countries per capita.
Franks Constitution confirms and cements their role in the country.
The people of Fiji have to realise this. The Fijians must stop blaiming Indians and vice versa. Likewise ither races. The military have not genuinely accepted responsibility and continue to blame the people.
It is not anyones fault. The Military have failed in their duty to prevent it from happening and have executed the 1987 and 2006 coups and participated in the 2000 coup. That is a truth the military no longer can deny. It is funny but even those senior military officers who left the military because they did not support the coups... know and admit this but will not go public. They have been indoctrinated in the Fijian organisation of the Fiji Military and they still have that sense of loyalty. They will always fall short of telling the truth. Hey what are boys clubs for.
If we contnue and accept the military version we are agreeing that in all events, the military were not directly involved or were the innocent party misled by others. That is far from the truth. Frank is determined to fullful what Rabuka failed to do. The signs are there already. Every Government Department has been mulitarized or have soldiers seconded to the Government. To MP position or management. The watchdog is keeping an eye on the nation. What fairness do we therefore seek... it may sound like a trumped out idea but if you ask the question why the military failed to stop every coup, and ask who has and will benefit from any coup the answer is ckearly not the chiefs and religious leaders, the alleged businessmen or external. We are fighting a battle against our custodians and they have raised arms against they people they swore loyalty to protecr. They cannot deny that.
@ 2:15 AM Vili Rakoro, who wrote,
"You want proof. Howabout Qarase's first act as PM when he recruited Politicians linked with the 2000 coups. And then when on to draw a policy to pardon them together with the Qoliqoli bill."
Sorry Vili Rakoro,
the above are not proof that the government was no longer being run effectively, even if it was publicized all over the world. Even calling me stupid does not make your statement correct or true, and I will not stoop to your level in the same manner. I believe you are good human being misguided in your thinking.
Qarase won the election after that with an even greater majority than before as proof that he was doing the right thing by the people, who voted him back to be the PM again.
As someone said, you are stumbling in your own confusion and lies. The TRUTH will set you free. WE are only trying to help you here in this blog.
GOD BLESS FIJI and HIS PEOPLE, including Vili Rakoro even if it is not your name.
Anonymous 11.08 pm
First I asked if you were being stupid. I did not say you were. This is one of the problems here, you lot majority of the time simply do not understand the debate or what is being said.
As for Qarase publicly announcing about his new policy plans. When he announced it, he basically said it's been drafted and awaiting to go through parliament where majority of the members are his cabinet whom he recruited.
Like I said most of them had links to the 2000 coup. So a policy that pardons them is pretty much in the bag had they voted on it. After Qarase announced those policies, Bainimarama as military commander also made an announcement criticising it. Also the tourism industry became very vanurable because most of those foreign investors felt the Qoliqoli bill will cripple their ability to continue a holiday package that for years has made Fiji one of the top Tourist destination.
I have always said that the moment Qarase announced about those policies to the media was the moment he sealed his fate.
Let us try and look at this rationally. I have stated before that even though it appears I support Fiji First blindly the truth is far from that.
Our current generation have been placed on a very challenging situation. The older generation whom are the current leaders, Political, Traditional, Military and Religious have been at odds since the 87 coups.
Therefore the choices they have given us are both bad. Yes I say bad and that includes the current one. I am not blind, so I fully understand they have weaknesses.
In an ideal world there would be a party that is not tainted by any old politics which would suit us the current generation. Unfortunately that's not the case.
So with the limited choice we are given we have to attempt to choose what we want. Problem is whoever we choose one side is going to be left disappointed.
So on the one hand we are being asked to choose but on the other we are being told who to choose because apparently the older generation knows best right.
So here's a question to our older generation, do you trust us to make up our own mind or do you think we are not capable of it?
@2:45 PM Yet, that is the message of the Lord.
have a blessed day, bro.
@12:13 AM
The problem is this: when the old generation was young, they had to listen to their own old generation. So now is their turn. If they have to transfer their power to the young generation, then it's like they give up their "turn" altogether...
This is why revolutions are so difficult.
What we see now is a total disconnection between the urban youth and the rural elders.
Rural elders populatuon going down, urban youth population going up. What does that tell you for the future?
Bainimarama (or most likely Khaiyum) did the proper observation a long time ago. Lowering the voting age to 18 was part of a brilliant strategy... but beyond strategies, what matters is the truth. The truth is that there is a strong movement against tradition, just like what has been observed the world over. Smart Fijian leaders will have to accept that as a reality and try to see how they can reform their communities to make them more acceptable to the youth. Otherwise, it is the end of the iTaukei culture as we have known it, and a new iTaukei culture will be born. I will finish with one observation: a young chief on the Coral Coast gets irritated when people call him "chief" ... when you reach that point, you should know that times are changing!
In the last day of the flag competition, the military government said they received over a thousand entries by email.
I am convinced it's a LIE, as they have never produced evidences!
If that was true, they could have posted those flags online a long time ago! unless we can see the designs/names for each entry, we have to conclude they lied....again!
there is one facebook page for flag design : https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fiji-Flag-Designers-Pool/1637343976506597?ref=ts&fref=ts
it's been there for a while and there are only 10 or so ugly proposals with only a thousand "likes"...
what does that tell us?
small details tell us about the big picture.
it is also very Fijian to note that the http://www.newfijiflag.com website has NOT changed at all since its launch!
no update about the mess going on there...
shame...shame...shame....
very poor public relations!!!
@2:04 AM are the rumours about the flag committee being disbanded this week true or false?
The flag committee is disbanded as of now.
Over 30000 in the armed forces. Why so many? Are we in a war? Whom are we fighting? Do we even know how to fight, or, put up a fight? Remember when they used to be called the Royal Fiji Military Forces. A highly respected and we'll renowned establishment. Now, it's just plain Loyal Fiji Military Forces. Loyal to their supreme leader.
Vili Vutusona is still as deluded as ever.
Xavier Khan, board member AFL and Executive Chair Biosecurity. Owner of Medisure Pharmacy which supplied vaccines for the military overseas tours now identified as a member of advisors for the free medicine that is now in shortage. Big corning gay of Nadi town and now incharge of border security.
There is a shortage so that you can buy from Meisure Pharmacy. Conman you bustard.
Josateki Daulako says... what a lot of Fijians do not realise that Frank had lost his nerve in 2000. Only pressure from the Western powers including Australia, forced him into action. Soldiers were involved in the 2000 coup and the military had supported the coup. They just did not expect rebel soldiers to jump into the affray quickly. Like I said before, every dog in the army wanted to be the next Rabuka and execute the coup including Frank.
How do we know that the Military knew about the coup, well Metuisela Mua who was the Fiji Intelligence Service Chief and from the army was one of those involved. He is an army man and was the Chief of the Intelligence Service in Fiji.
Fiji was at the edge of anarchy and the Military did nothing to prevent the coup from being executed in the first place and failed to take appropriate measures following the coup. The Fiji Military under Franks command from 2000 has failed the people of Fiji.
One wonders why Frank and Khaiyum brought in Ghai. What is evident is that Ghai's constitution would weaken the military power. It also included a clause that would permit soldiers to disobey illegal orders, such as taking part in a coup. Colonel Mosese Tikoitoga said" Soldiers sign an oath to follow orders and they will at all times abide by it". Tikoitoga also rejected any downsizinig of the armed forces and he made this statement " There is no turning back" The Military was cleaning up the Government system and would not stop. They will not stop now and if we the citizens of Fiji resign ourselves to Military rule...hidden within a supposed democracy...it will be to our demise. Unless Indians and other races also realise and see that the Military are playing devils advocate, they will continue to back a party that is hell bent on cementing the military position in Fiji's political arena. I said it before and I will say it again, the Fiji Military Forces is a Fijian Military comprising of 97% Fijian. A large percentage of them are Christians and Methodist. They have misled us far enough. They have to be exposed for the wolf they are. Even the flag saga will happen for the military because the Military Council is behind every movement being made. I would not be surprised if in the end, Khaiyum will be collateral damage if things get out of hand.
Keep watching this post, I will pass through enough for people to understand and realise these things.
The flag issue seems to have gone on the back burner. Does not appear the opposition is pushing the 'do not change flag' agenda. Just one person on this blog site desperately tries to bring it up.
The fight not to replace the flag has not been won yet if you do not want the flag design changed. Perhaps many just don't like the 23 designs as Frank said and maybe the Flag Committee may find new designs that would appeal.
Why is there very little being said about what they are looking at for transparency.
The way I figure, we like it or not, we will be stuck with a new flag we don't like but hey, many in Fiji have resigned themselves to Frank and don't give a shit anyways.
If Vili is not supporting FF party blindly then he must be supporting FF dumbly.................... dumb schmuck....
Frank Bainimarama coming to Sydney to celebrate Fiji Day and was invited by the Indian community. They can have him but someone also waiting for him. Waranaka namaka. Day of reckoning. Cicilevu boy, do not change your plans.
Frank Bainimarama coming to Sydney to celebrate Fiji Day and was invited by the Indian community. They can have him but someone also waiting for him. Waranaka namaka. Day of reckoning. Cicilevu boy, do not change your plans.
1 Thessalonians 5
1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
Isaiah 55
6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:
7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
Romans 13
11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
Noqu advise ga vei iko Frank Bainimara kua ni lako tiko vakalevu overseas..sa davo oti dua me na vanai iko......take this advise seriously.....qarauna..your days are numbered.....
@ 11:47. Vili Rakoro
When you ask someone whether he or she is being stupid, you are calling him stupid, otherwise you would not ask that question in the first place. Unfortunately it does not add value to your comments and shows you as you really are. You do not win arguments by abusing those who oppose your views. Try focusing on the issues being discussed.
What Qarase did with his new policy was within the law. He did what was his right as the government to make new policies for the country. Every government or leader will face the same challenge in trying to bring about changes - not everyone will agree.
Bainimarama (Army Commander)in criticizing PM Qarase's policies, basically was out of line. Please re-read Will Tamanis comments on what the military's role is towards the country's ruling government.
So you are now admitting that Bainimarama executed the coup based on a few disgruntled foreign tourist operators, while completely ignoring the Fijian landowners whose qoliqoli places were being exploited by these foreigners for their personal gains.
Bainimarama's actions were proven to be wrong in the Court of Appeal.
Qarase won the election overwhelmingly after he introduced his policy. This is proof that what he was doing was right by the majority of people. This is the whole basis of democracy - the majority rules.
Vili, if you cannot understand simple thing like the above, then I give up. You obviously need much greater help than I thought.
God Bless Fiji.
@1:21 am
What is stupidity? Is it a true/false concept or rather something to measure on a scale?
If we say it is a true/false concept, we can have the following cases :
1) A is stupid and B is stupid
2) A is stupid and B is not stupid
3) A is not stupid and B is not stupid
4) A is not stupid and B is stupid
So obviously, if A calls B stupid, then one of the 2 has to be stupid... or the 2 of them. That rules out 3.
But if we say the concept depends on what we are talking about, and is to be measured on a scale, well things get more difficult.
A can be less stupid than B, but still too stupid to understand! How could such a scenario lead to a better discussion?
If everybody is stupid, then we are wasting our time here!
How can we know that we are not all too stupid? Can a stupid person actually realizes it? If not, then only a clever person can. But then such a person is not stupid and can measure the level of stupidity of thosd who actually are stupid.
Keda ulukau?
Anonymous 1. 21 am
I fully understand what democracy is. Do you? It appears you only accept democracy when it suits you. At present we have a democratically elected government. International observers confirmed that.
However most of you do not accept that. So let's look at the legalities of the chain of events. Firstly when Bainimarama executed the Martial law option one in 2006 it was within the parameters of the 1997 constitution. And in 2009 after the court of appeal case he executed option three which was also constitutional.
In 2000 Bainimarama appointed Qarase as interim head of government which was also constitutional eventhough restoring the Chaudary government would also have been constitutional given they had won the election.
He made a judgement call to choose Qarase over Chaudary in 2000 based on the nations safety in relation to social and economic stability. In 2006 he made the same judgement call based on the same issues just these time instead of choosing a civilian to head the interim government like he did with Qarase, he chose to lead it himself this time.
And based on how Qarase his previous civilian choice panned out it is understandable why he did it.
The better choice would have been to restore Chaudary in 2000 rather then Qarase. That would have been both constitutional and democratic given he won the election.
However as Military commander his first responsibility is the nations safety and well being. That overrules anything else including the civilian governments wishes. Both of his decision in 2000 (Qarase) and 2006 (himself) were based on that.
@10:23 PM Love Bainimarama like yourself, bro. Kua ni vosa ca.
@3:43
"maybe the Flag Committee may find new designs that would appeal"
where are they gonna find 'em?
Rakoro @ 2:47 AM is at his lies again trying to hoodwink the public. How can Bainimarama's actions be constitutional when the court has ruled that they were unconstitutional.
All these lies are now coming to light and jail is Bai's and Khai's doom.
4 46...why blew the whistle! Boci! If you're a serious why let everyone know of your plans. Clumsy!
Now Vili will report it directly to Bainimarama. The Australian govt too has the responsibility for providing top security to any head of a sovereign nation on their turf .
@9:29 AM
Let's say that 4:46 = A
Let's also say that you = B
A is really stupid to say something that dumb. It means nothing in Fiji after 9 years, of course.
Therefore B is stupid to take A seriously.
We have a problem.
Better to stick to the flag issue.
Vili Vutusona Cavuka Boci, stop making a fool of yourself you low down piece of shit.
9.58
Hey boci! ..flag is not our topic, here. Wait when it's back then scream your arse as hard as you can so that your idiot Bainimarama will hear and react to it. Our current topic baku is compulsory cadet training in schools that the FF regime is trying to force upon the people.
Now that is the issue worth talked about.
So....Dig it.. suckerrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!
Booker T
Hi Vili Rakoro
I read with contempt all your comments and come to the conclusion that you're an advocate of the "new age movement", arent you? You're not conservative any more., a liberal instead. It's obvious.
You are too rational in your thinking that our sacred institution - tradition and culture , and faith to God don't hold weight any more.. Someday Vili you'll call yourself God.
A person who thinks rational also thinks there are several ways to God, not one.- a new age movement concept.
When would that be Vili?
ISA..when I read Vili Rakoro's same same explanation about the Coups and who did this and that I thought the following reality straight away.
The talkative repetitive parrot (Vili) remains shut in a cage and he recites his recital over and over and over again.
The rest of the birds without too much speech yet interesting enough to make good sense flies freely about.
I feel sorry for this fallah brada.
@10:39 AM
Kua ni vosa ca bro! E vinaka vei au na talanoa qo (kuila)
If you read this very post carefully, you will see that the word "flag" is actually part of the topic (third sentence from the end).
There is a strong link between cadet training and flags. Actually, almost every topic you can imagine is more or less connected with the flag issue. Flags are everywhere! Everybody wants to talk about flags, everyday! If we talk about flags 10 times per day until the end of the year, that will make a good 2000 posts, not bad eh?
While your wording is a little bit harsh, I am sure you can convert all that dark energy into positive flag debate!
Why would some posters in here use swear words and other vulgar terminologies to emphasize their arguments? Do they or don't they have enough clean grey matter between their ears or are they just too stupid to check out the dictionary to enhance their vocabulary?
The using of pupils in their early teens for military training in cadet programmes in high schools should be left to the choice of their parents.
Some posters used swear words because assholes like Vili Vutusona does not get it. If you don't like it then don't fucking read it lol
@Francis Kean? 4:01 PM
What's it like in that sewer where you live?
@anonymous 1:36 PM
They are just imitating their Prime Minister Bainimarama who verbally abused the priest Father Kevin Barr
Here it is
"I greeted him . Then in a very angry voice he said that I should apologise to the people of Fiji for my letter concerning the Fijian flag in the newspaper. I said that I thought it expressed a real concern with a touch of joking humour.
The PM said it was irresponsible coming from a recognised leader in the community. He stated he was not a Catholic but a Methodist. He then called me “ A FUCKED UP PRIEST” and said I had become anti-government. He said he used to try and help me but would do so no longer. I said I would be prepared to come and speak with him. Instead he repeated I was a “fucked up priest”, threw in a few swear words, told me to go back to where I came from and put down the phone. His tone was angry and really over the top".
Josateki Daulako says... the truth in the pudding of the Military's intention to rule Fiji is the fact that Bainimarama's coup started out amidst grandiose claims of multi-racialist objectives. This coming from Fijians who executed the 1987 coup and participated in the 2000 coup and/ or failed to prevent the coups from happening.
This has tended to morph into a takeover that now bears resemblance to the 1987 ethno-nationalist seizure of power by Rabuka in 1987. The Labour Party, Hoteliers and others who initially supported Frank, are no calling him an uncontrollable loose cannon.
Many Indians still believe in Frank because they saw how he brutalized Fijians and that was vendetta for them. That was collateral damage for the military.
You see this in the make up of Franks cabinet line-up. Old hands from Rabuka's post 1987 coup government like veteran Taukei movement supporter Inoke Kubuabola is in his Government. How can the military denounce racism and nationalism yet employ one. Jim Ah Koy and Filipe Bole are two others.
Bainimarama claims to wage a battle against the old elites however, you find them in his Government and two of them are Epeli Nailatikau the President and Epeli Ganilau. They occupy pivotal positions in his Government.
Remember when Neumi Leweni the drummer boy repudiated any negotiated settlement in the aftermath of the abrogation of the constitution, rejecting Commonwealth-United Nations efforts to assist in brokering a President's Forum, he was effectively throwing down a gauntlet to opponents. What the military also did was murder Sakiusa Rabaka, Nimilote Verebasaga and Tevita Malasebe and those soldiers and police office's convicted for their murder were released from prison. The transparent objective of such a move was to send a message to the MILITARY RANK AND FILE that if they shed blood to protect the regime they would be protected from legal action.
That is why violence by police and Military has not stopped and will continue.
We are literally allowing the Military to rule our country. The Military Council is too powerful under the new constitution. That is why they do not want the role of watchdog or housedog, they want to now be the master of the house.
When Indians and other races realise this, they will realise that the military is just a Fijian boys club hell bent on ensuring their survival and their position in Fiji's politics. The rest, racism, land issues, qoliqoli bill, chiefs, Ratu Mara and so forth, were all just a military propaganda machine that kept the housedog holding the lease and unleasing their master, the unsuspecting civilians of Fiji who supported them at their biding.
Remember this, every soldier understands this creed and they have been brainwashed to believe it. They know the military will support and protect them if they do anything illegal to protect the regime. They are a force and a law upon themselves. Why do you think Rabuka created the CRW or Frank his thug crew of Naliva. For that specific purpose and these boys can never and will never be touched. Hence, ex senior military officers will fall short of telling the truth behind the coup. They owe their allegiance to the Military Force, not the nation of Fiji, otherwise they would have prevented every coup that happened or not participated or executed it themselves. They are your Devil's Advocate.
Forgive me for digressing. If as that political prostitute of a hack reporter, Nemani Delaibatiki, claims that Biman Prasad should apologise for acusing Jyoti Prabha of skirt journalism; and if the accusation is true, I feel Hon. Prasad should apologise. He should apologise to all men of this nation. After all who in his right mind would like to have sex with such an ugly cow. Better to wank!
Methodist leaders meet Reddy, pledge to support education
By TIMOCI VULA
Wednesday, July 29, 2015
Update: 7:50PM LEADERS of the Methodist Church of Fiji met Minister for Education Dr Mahendra Reddy this week and pledged their support towards the development of education in the country.
The meeting focused on how the church and the ministry could work together to deliver the best educational services to Fijian students.
Mr Reddy acknowledged the meeting and said they were part of the faith-based groups that had contributed immensely to the development of education.
"We value the Methodist Church in Fiji very highly as well as other faith-based groups for the enormous contribution they have made to the education sector. You have a lot of wisdom and time-tested knowledge and we are happy to work in collaboration with you to assist us fulfill the vision of the Bainimarama government," he said in a Government statement.
TYPICAL BAINIMARAMA OPERANDI
ABSOLUTELY CLUELESS.
ONE DAY ITS "SECULAR GOD", next day "Back to Jehovah God"
ONE DAY NEW CONSTITUTION, next day "Bai & Kai Constitution"
ONE DAY "Lets do a NEW Flag"next day "Stay with the old Flag"
NO LEADERSHIP.
THE BOAT IS SHOVED FROM PILLAR TO POST.
"Without a Vision, the people perish" - Proverbs 29:18
That's Fiji's destiny.
THEY SAY "YOU GET THE GOVERNMENT YOU DESERVE"
Well the people chose a farked up Leader . Now you gonna get a farked up Destiny.
GOD's word never lies.
Is it true that the Deputy Governor Reserve Bank a MUSLIM probably related to Khayum is the next CEO FNPF. Can someone confirmed.
What most in here cannot comprehend is that most countries through their journey have had their military assist in their developments. Fiji is very much still a developing nation. Usually the military assists the nation in the transition from developing to being developed, where various civilian institutions are strong enough to manage all the aspects of social and economic wellbeing.
If we have to estimate, Fiji is probably 30 years or more behind most developed nations such as Australia, US, UK and Canada. On top of that we have our traditional composition that makes it an even more complex impediment. Therefore navigating our way through these immense task is not as simple as most in here may think.
Our ideal goal is to reach a certain point where our various institutions have a clear role and are strong enough to maintain their effectiveness. The military by these time should remain within the barracks and are fully neutral in terms of political persuasions, at the same time the civilian government should be strong enough to maintain their effectiveness.
Our judicial institution should be rock solid and independent enough to be the final judge of the law. The military and government at this point should respect that rather then trying to hold a coup or change policies to undermine our judicial system. Our judicial, media and anti-corruption institutions should be strong enough to keep both the military and civilian government in check.
Those are the first task we need to implement. Everything else will start to take shape when we have our corridors of powers rock solid. Whether you agree or not the fact is that the Military is the best choice to assist us in our transition. Our judicial system, media and civilian authorities at these point just do not have the strength to effect change and maintain effectiveness. We have to reach that point first before we handover.
If we are to try and adopt developed countries policies for our developing country now then we are bound to fail because our various institutions simply do jot have the strength to maintain its effectiveness. And we have seen the results of attempting to do so. If we do not learn from our history then we are bound to repeat it.
"Is it true that the Deputy Governor Reserve Bank a MUSLIM probably related to Khayum is the next CEO FNPF. Can someone confirmed...."
Natuvu to Savusavu Highway completed. $73 million was used.Nabouwalu to Dreketi Highway almost complete about the same figure will be used by Govt barring any scams like the recent one involving 3 i-taukei and one indo-fijian roads constructor,well they got what they wished,jail terms.
Korovou to Rakiraki highway in its final phase of completion,the people of Wainibuka say there is a legend in relation to the completion of the Korovou-Rakiraki Highway,how 'manna' and many natural resources will be discovered plus many more goodies, but for now its an early Christmas for the people of Tunuloa,Buca,Natewa and Saqani,
I dont see any Evil in that but I know a lot of good things that are bound to follow,development,businesses and more hotels.
Vili your just putting your dumb foot into your mouth with your incognitive jibberish bullshit about the military being the best choice for transition.
You talk about their role to be in the barracks and than you transform them into magicians who has the ability to manage the affairs of a State or Government.
The Military do not have the skills to manage the state of a Government. They cant even manage their regimental fund.
Government should be run by elected people with the political know how. That mistake was made with Rabuka and Fiji suffered under the military regime. Rabuka eventually changed and became a politician but the country should not suffer because the military thinks they have the mandate to manage the affairs of a country. Fiji has suffered enough with the 1987, 2000 and 2006 coup. For 28 years, the military has had their nose in the countries political affairs and when it works against them, they commit coups.
You have changed your stance in some ways but still stuck in the military ideals in others but I think Josateki Daulako has effectively made you see the light...Just need to change the globe.
Anon@5.05PM, Francis Kean has a good home whereas you live as a squatter, which is basically a sewer you dumb fuck.
As for another sewer rat Vili Rakoro, just fuck off you gay biarch.
Vili does not need to change the globe... o koya tamani tube light....lol
Our history is coup. 28 years of coup. Kids 28 years old today were born into the coup culture. Add ten years to 28 and you have people who are 38 years old today and were 10 when the 1987 coup happen. What this means is that todays generation has been indoctrinated into the coup and military culture. This makes it harder for this generation to understand the implications of the wrongs the military has committed against the nation of Fiji. Just as the older generation were gullible and misled by the military, the same is happening to this generation.
This will progressively because the military will never give up this power they have in their hands. It is such a powerful thing and those who have held this power in their hands like Rabuka and Frank, realise this. It must be exhilarating for them and the military but it sure has been difficult for the people of Fiji.
The Military are wolves in sheep skin...Anyone who dares challenge them and disrupt their mission will be collateral damage.
Whichever way Rakoro tries to spin his false arguments, they are still false.
The heart of the issue is that Bainimarama, Khaiyum and their lot including the military abused their powers to takeover the reins of government. Naboro is waiting for them for their treasonous and treacherous acts.
Even if they have popularity on their side, the facts still have not and will not change their past traitorous acts.
Whether you agree or not the Military simply is the best organisation to assist us in our transition. Politicians regardless of how they spin their speech are simply not to be trusted until we have strong media, judicial and anti - corruption institutions.
Recently the UK politicians told their people they are in it together then turned around and voted to increase their own salary by 10 percent. And just few years ago they were exposed by the media in their expenses corruption where most were using it for personal assets like buying houses and other personal assets. Eventhough they were meant to use it only for public services.
So being democratically elected simply doesn't make them free of corruption. Qarase showed exactly that with his self serving attitude which got him convicted. During his reign as PM he always say how he likes to help make a difference even if he was not a PM. So what happened after not being a PM, he abandoned those promises of serving and now all he does is get opposition leader Kepa to ask the government about his lucrative pension on top of the millions he has managed to swindle away.
Yes the military has been at the forefront of the events but you are simply kidding yourself if you think the politicians, chiefs and Church didn't play their part period.
"Recently the UK politicians told their people they are in it together then turned around and voted to increase their own salary by 10 percent. And just few years ago they were exposed by the media in their expenses corruption where most were using it for personal assets like buying houses and other personal assets. Eventhough they were meant to use it only for public services"
VILI YOU LIALIA OR WHAT? THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT FRANK'S GOVERNMENT DID. GIVE THEMSELVES AN ILLEGAL PAYRISE JUST ONLY A FEW WEEKS THEIR ASSES WERE SEATED IN PARLIAMENT! AND YOU TALK OF CORRUPTION ABOUT THE UK GOVT HAHAHA - WHY DENY THE FACT THAT FRANK'S GOVERNMENT IS CLEAN - DID YOU JUST WAKE UP FROM A COMA???? ALL OF WHAT YOU STATED ABOVE IS EXACTLY WHAT YOUR CORRUPT FIJI FIRST GOVERNMENT IS ALL ABOUT.
YOU NEED TO GET YOUR THINK TANK FILLED WITH MORE OXYGEN - LOOKS SERIOUSLY DEPLETED YOU CAN'T THINK BRO!
Anonymous 12.11 pm
What pay rise?
Seriously you lot don't even try to check your facts. You just come out with any bullshit you can think of and think it's the truth.
The only ones that asked for a pay rise was the opposition 6 weeks after getting the job. The only ones that need oxygen in their think tanks are you lot.
Mostly posting anonymously with basic debate skills and lots of degrading vernacular. While the rest of Fiji have moved on, you lot are stucked in a time loop. It really is a sad state of affairs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOzub_ghAbM
WHO IS PROTECTING "RENEE LAL" IN FIJI????
I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW!
SHE HAS STOLE ALL OUR MONEY AND NOW SHE IS HIDING FROM US.
RENEE PLEASE BEWARE I WILL HUNT YOU DOWN AND "KILL YOU".
RENEE LAL'S SISTER RAINA PATEL MARRIED TO TEJASH PATEL IS EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE IN THE THEFT.
RAINA IS A WHORE AND BLOODY CROOK.
RAINA IM GOING TO KILL YOU TOO AND IM NOT JOKING.
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